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Roberts wanted slower pace on abortion, Wimbledon begins: 5 Things podcast

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On today’s episode of the 5 Things podcast: On abortion, chief justice wanted to go slow but the court was in a hurry

Supreme Court correspondent John Fritze sits down with producer PJ Elliott. Plus, G7 meetings continue as leaders push for more Russia sanctions, travel reporter Zach Wichter looks into the airline pilot shortage, at least three people are dead after an Amtrak crash and Wimbledon begins.

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Hit play on the player above to hear the podcast and follow along with the transcript below. This transcript was automatically generated, and then edited for clarity in its current form. There may be some differences between the audio and the text.

Taylor Wilson:

Good morning. I’m Taylor Wilson and this is 5 Things you need to know Monday, the 27th of June, 2022. Today, a look at Chief Justice John Roberts’ hold on the Supreme Court in the wake of overturning Roe. Plus a look at the national pilot shortage and more.

Here are some of the top headlines:

  1. The suspect in Saturday’s mass shooting during an LGBTQ festival in Norway has agreed to be held in pre-trial custody for four weeks, and will therefore not appear in court today. Zaniar Matapour was arrested after the shooting that killed two people and injured more than 20.
  2. The Colorado Avalanche are Stanley Cup champions. The Avs beat the Tampa Bay Lightning, who were searching for their third cup in a row.
  3. And Ole Miss are college baseball champions. The team won its first College World Series title after beating Oklahoma yesterday.

The decision to overturn Roe vs. Wade has raised new questions about Chief Justice John Roberts’ grip on the Supreme Court, and whether his fellow conservatives are speeding past his incrementalist approach. 5 Things producer PJ Elliott spoke with USA TODAY Supreme Court Reporter John Fritze about that, and more from Friday’s ruling.

John Fritze:

Well, I think it says that Robert’s role is diminished. I mean, I think there was a lot of speculation that Roberts might be able to find some middle ground here in this case. That was what he talked about at oral argument. And that’s what he ultimately wrote in his concurring opinion, but not a single other justice signed off on onto that. And that’s, just to be clear, pretty rare for a chief justice. I think there the Court left him hanging and I think the rest of the Court, both liberals and conservatives, came to the conclusion that there just isn’t a middle ground in this case, it’s one way or the other.

PJ Elliott:

Is there any reason to be concerned about Justice Thomas writing in his opinion that other rulings by the Court should be looked at as well, including contraception in gay marriage?

John Fritze:

I mean, look, in some ways that’s not a surprise. Thomas has made similar arguments to this in the past. I think it’s notable that Thomas wrote alone, so that means that no other justice, none of the other conservatives are embracing that perspective. The majority opinion, of course, and also a concurrence by Justice Kavanaugh, argue that that’s not on the table. It’s not really up for discussion. I think that that doesn’t mean it won’t happen.

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